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Lintel question

Postby Oldguy » Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:13 pm

I'm finding that I will need to scratchbuild a Frisco Depot (http://thelibrary.org/lochist/frisco/de ... p01219.jpg) that was located at Osceola, Mo. I haven't found any kit that could be kit-bashed, so I thinking of C.C.Crows fractured stone wall material as a starting point. But I haven't a clue as to what could be used for the upper and lower window lintels. Any ideas?

Windows themselves I might have to compromise as the Frisco loved the 6 over 6 window panes and none of those can be found either. Not just for this depot, but for any window size.

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Re: Lintel question

Postby mark dalrymple » Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:46 am

Hi.

Wills makes a plastic product which is very similar to this. The sheets are 3" tall and 5 1/2" long. The plastic is nice and soft - easy to cut and snap. There are four sheets to a pack and the one you would want is called 'coarse stone'. They also do a block which would work well for under the gables. You would have to mitre and putty the corners to get a good fit, but the sheets are made to fit and match end to end, so as long as you plan well you should be able to make the seems invisible. Likewise on the front elevation you would need a join, but this could be done where the lower story protrusion is and where the upper window is, meaning very little seem to hide. Sills would have to be added with das or something like that. Wills is an English brand, so my be a little hard to track down. The scale is 1/76, but I use it all the time in ho scale and love it. It's a shame it doesn't come in bigger sheets. I would do a search on line - even if you had to get it from the UK. Another possibility is to just go the whole hog and make up the structure with stiff card, cover in a layer of air dry das, and hand carve the walls. Alot of work, but very rewarding.

I'm sure I have tons of 6/6 windows from Tichy train group and Grandt line in a variety of sizes. Maybe I misunderstood. Good luck - it looks like an interesting structure.

If you find my thread on the 'Tap and Die scrap box challenge' which should be hovering on page one or two of the craftsmanship workshop - the bottom story made of stone is made using the wills coarse stone.

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Re: Lintel question

Postby mabloodhound » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:34 am

Bob,
That should be fairly easy build once you find the right stone. As for windows, not sure why you want to change the original 1 over 1 to 6 over 6. The 1 over 1 was very prototypical for the era.
Take a look at the laser cut variety from Rusty Stumps. He has a large variety of sizes, including 6 over 6, and you should find one to fit. http://www.rustystumps.com/products.asp?id=2
For your lintels and headers, try using pieces of linoleum tile, broken edges to simulate rock. Dr. Ben's website has some he offers for stone walls. http://www.debenllc.com/servlet/the-1217/Weathering-Scale-Model-Trains/Detail

Oh, and remember we love finished pictures.

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Re: Lintel question

Postby Oldguy » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:07 pm

Thanks for the quick replies. Hmmm, embossed plastic sheets - I forgot they even existed. Which reminded me that packed away are some Holgate & Reynolds sheets, but I think that they are all brick.

Thanks to the folks on here, I now have 2 leads for the windows. :ymapplause: I just need to determine height and width most likely scaled from the drawings. The on-line posted plans have the footprint and some finish details, but not window sizes.

Since I live pretty much in the middle of nowhere (the "local" hobby shop is 150 miles away) and the nearest "craft" store is a 1 hour drive, I do most of my shopping online.

Photos, you bet! I have accumulated a ton of craftsman kits over the years, most of which will find a place on the layout. Thanks to all of you, I have a better understanding of what needs to be done to make a great looking model, although my skill set has suffered over my long hiatus from the hobby.
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Re: Lintel question

Postby bparrish » Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:24 pm

Bob.......

There are two major suppliers of window castings. I think the model manufacturers prefer Tichy as they package in larger quantities and thus offer a better price. I use Grandt Line only they are a west coast company and the Train Shop in Santa Clara CA will send me anything and they stock the entire line in multiples. I've never been to Tichy's page so I don't know if the provide dimensions.

Here is a link to Grandt's line page. They have the dimensions in thousandths printed with each part number.

http://www.grandtline.com/architectural ... indows.htm

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Re: Lintel question

Postby rebel » Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:57 pm

Both have 6 over 6 windows!!!!!!!!!!
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